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conflict as to what the president said he said the to tell his people do every do and confirm from the pentagon knew was in charge with the state department or urgent -- but leon panetta says it is not 911 that when your people are in danger that is more than 911. lou: john bolton serving the government to hear the secretary of defense to realize the outcry and a need warhol from the ambassador and officials from the government as a 911 call and department of defense can respond, how upset were you? >> i was beyond upset and speechless to what the testimony showed. it revealed incompetence at the top of the obama administration that is breathtaking. the president not concerned with americans under attack, secretary of state's all day long never once called to ask what might be done? the idea secretary not aware for request for satiric -- security saying can we help you out? nobody is hauled in this administration with national security. not just the failure of benghazi on negative benghazi but exposing the risk of facilities, citizens and their country to attacks worldwide. these people and not
conflict as to what the president said he said the to tell his people do every do and confirm from the pentagon knew was in charge with the state department or urgent -- but leon panetta says it is not 911 that when your people are in danger that is more than 911. lou: john bolton serving the government to hear the secretary of defense to realize the outcry and a need warhol from the ambassador and officials from the government as a 911 call and department of defense can respond, how upset were...
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the pentagon approvedded a major expansion of the u.s. cyber command growing ranks for approximately 900 to 4900 personnel cyber warriors. according to the same reports, there will be three types of forces. those who fortify the dod networks, those who help commanders abroad to plan and execute attacks, and those who conduct infrastructure like power grids and power flaunts. needless to say this is absolutely necessary to protect the nation against what's becoming a leading security threat; however, i'm interested in those protecting the national infrastructure. the majority of the critical infrastructure own and operated by the private sector. will the military rely on the national guard which is able to operate both, under title 10 # and 32 authorities? >> senator, your description of how you try to prepare the force is accurate. we clearly don't have authority to do all of that, but we are trying to grow the right force so that if it became necessary and we had the authority to do all of those things, we would be prepared. the national
the pentagon approvedded a major expansion of the u.s. cyber command growing ranks for approximately 900 to 4900 personnel cyber warriors. according to the same reports, there will be three types of forces. those who fortify the dod networks, those who help commanders abroad to plan and execute attacks, and those who conduct infrastructure like power grids and power flaunts. needless to say this is absolutely necessary to protect the nation against what's becoming a leading security threat;...
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want to start with a washington battle on full display this week when the president's pick to head the pentagon, former republican senator chuck hagel, came under fire from members of his own party during a very contentious confirmation hearing. >> name one person in your opinion who's intim nated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> are we right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. >> senator hagel, please answer the question i asked. today, do you think unilateral sanctions would be a bad idea? >> all this raising questions about how effective chuck hagel will be if confirmed as secretary of defense. earlier this weekend, i sat down for a rare joint interview with the top military leadership issue the outgoing secretary of defense leon panetta and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general martin dempsey. >>> secretary panetta, welcome back to "meet the press." general dempsey, welcome. let me start with the man that is poised to take your place. he underwent on thursday a pretty tough round of questioning. he seemed to struggle with a lot of the answers.
want to start with a washington battle on full display this week when the president's pick to head the pentagon, former republican senator chuck hagel, came under fire from members of his own party during a very contentious confirmation hearing. >> name one person in your opinion who's intim nated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> are we right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. >> senator hagel, please answer the question i asked. today, do...
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in fact he was with us in the pentagon. >> so he was with you. now you knew about the cable from ambassador stevens because general hamm informed you of it, is that correct? >> in a written weekly report. >> so when secretary clinton testified a few weeks ago that she had a clear-eyed assessment of the threat we faced in libya, is that really a credible statement, if she didn't know about the ambassador's cable on august 15 saying we can't tchevend place? >> well, i don't know that she didn't know about the cable. >> she said she didn't. >> then that's -- >> are you stunned that she didn't? >> i would call myself surprised she didn't. >> are you surprised that the president of the united states never calls you, secretary panetta, and says how is it going? >> you know, normally in these situations -- >> did he know the level of threat -- >> let me finish the answer, we were deploying the forces, he knew we were deploying the forces, he was being kept -- >> i hate to interrupt you but i've got limited time. we didn't deploy any forces. >> the event
in fact he was with us in the pentagon. >> so he was with you. now you knew about the cable from ambassador stevens because general hamm informed you of it, is that correct? >> in a written weekly report. >> so when secretary clinton testified a few weeks ago that she had a clear-eyed assessment of the threat we faced in libya, is that really a credible statement, if she didn't know about the ambassador's cable on august 15 saying we can't tchevend place? >> well, i...
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>> jennifer griffin reporting from the pentagon. thanks. let's get reaction now from the vice chair of the senate intelligence committee, georgia republican sax by chambliss. you were busy in both hearings. let's start with the benghazi hearing. competent in a at that said the pentagon didn't have the intelligence or the assets to get to benghazi in time to protect those four americans who were killed. let's take a look. >> you can't just willie nilly send f-16s there and blow the hell out of a place without knowing what's taking place. you can't send ac 130s there, blow the hell out of a target without knowing what's taking place. >> did you find panetta and the chairman of the joint chiefs, did you find them persuasive on this point? >> not at all, chris. you know, to their credit, i understand this came about all of a sudden. but when i asked both of them, was this an intelligence failure, the response was interesting. what general dempsey said is, that there was an intelligence gap. i'm not sure i've ever heard that term in my 12 years
>> jennifer griffin reporting from the pentagon. thanks. let's get reaction now from the vice chair of the senate intelligence committee, georgia republican sax by chambliss. you were busy in both hearings. let's start with the benghazi hearing. competent in a at that said the pentagon didn't have the intelligence or the assets to get to benghazi in time to protect those four americans who were killed. let's take a look. >> you can't just willie nilly send f-16s there and blow the...
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. >> what more can be done from your perspective on the pentagon's role in securing our embassies? we just had a near suicide attack, if you will, suicide bomber, at an embassy in turkey just last week. what can be done more than what has been done now? >> the important things to do are first of all you've got to build up the host country capacity. in the end, these embassies do depend on host country, the details that provide security. so you've got to try to develop that. >> this shouldn't be more marines? >> no, no. let me get the rest of the part of it. you have to harden these embassies as much as possible. and third, we have been working with the state department to determine whether additional marines ought to be assigned to that area. and in the end, the final alternative is our ability to respond in having our troops in a position where they can respond quickly. but i have to tell you, a lot of that still is dependent on whether intelligence tells us that we've got a big problem, and gives us enough warning so that we can get to the place to respond. >> did you have enough
. >> what more can be done from your perspective on the pentagon's role in securing our embassies? we just had a near suicide attack, if you will, suicide bomber, at an embassy in turkey just last week. what can be done more than what has been done now? >> the important things to do are first of all you've got to build up the host country capacity. in the end, these embassies do depend on host country, the details that provide security. so you've got to try to develop that. >>...
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ten years ago the pentagon had 50 drones. today it's 7,500. a third of the air force's fleet unmanned. u.s. military carried out 447 drone attacks in afghanistan in the first 11 months in 2012. 294 total in all of 2011. what's behind this drone explosion, if you will? >> well, i think that drones are sort of irresistible for a policymaker, for a president who is worried about protecting the country but also, you know, a president who in many ways was formed politically by the experiences in iraq and afghanistan, at least as far as his foreign policy views, who doesn't want to see dangerous, costly, bloody military entanglements in far away nations. drones are surgical. they're cheap. you can have a pretty high degree of accuracy. it is true that there have been numerous civilian casualties, but relative to any other technology we have short of sending in, you know, an assassin with a sniper rifle which in many cases just isn't practical, drones are the best way to sort of take the enemy off the battlefield. they don't cost a lot of money. ther
ten years ago the pentagon had 50 drones. today it's 7,500. a third of the air force's fleet unmanned. u.s. military carried out 447 drone attacks in afghanistan in the first 11 months in 2012. 294 total in all of 2011. what's behind this drone explosion, if you will? >> well, i think that drones are sort of irresistible for a policymaker, for a president who is worried about protecting the country but also, you know, a president who in many ways was formed politically by the experiences...
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jenna: national skhaourt correspondent jennifer given is live at the pentagon watching the hearing as it happens. what is the tenure of the hearing this morning? >> reporter: i think what is most interesting, jenna is as soon as democrats take to the questioning they bring up a totally unrelated element, they start asking the secretary about sequestration, about budget cuts. when the republicans are at the helm you have senator lindsey graham right now who is questioning pa net that and general dempsey, the tenure is very different and there is very much the point being made by secretary panetta and dempsey is that f-16s wouldn't have worked that these were the wrong tools, that the military availability in the region, it would have taken airy fueling and that they just didn't have the assets to be able to respond in time. here is what secretary panetta just said. >> the united states military, as i've said, is not, and frankly should not be a 911 service capable of arriving on the scene within minutes to every possible contingency around the world. >> reporter: these answers were not
jenna: national skhaourt correspondent jennifer given is live at the pentagon watching the hearing as it happens. what is the tenure of the hearing this morning? >> reporter: i think what is most interesting, jenna is as soon as democrats take to the questioning they bring up a totally unrelated element, they start asking the secretary about sequestration, about budget cuts. when the republicans are at the helm you have senator lindsey graham right now who is questioning pa net that and...
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. >> chuck hagel and the battle for the pentagon. >> the good news is, for the first time in many years, republicans and democrats seem ready to tackle this problem together. >> the immigration problem. has somebody been reading exit polls? >> too many children are dying. too many children. >> also, the fight over -- over guns. >> law-abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violence or deranged criminals. >> the word on hillary in 2016. will she or won't she? >> i have no plans to run. >> thursday was not a good day for chuck hagel, president obama's choice to be his next offensive material. his old pal and fellow vietnam veteran john mccain jumped all over him for opposing the search --the surge in iraq. >> were you correct or not to say that the surge would be the month dangerous foreign policy blunder since vietnam? correct or incorrect? yes or no? are you going to answer the question? the question is, where you're right or wrong? that is a pretty straightforward question. i would like for you to answer whether you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elabor
. >> chuck hagel and the battle for the pentagon. >> the good news is, for the first time in many years, republicans and democrats seem ready to tackle this problem together. >> the immigration problem. has somebody been reading exit polls? >> too many children are dying. too many children. >> also, the fight over -- over guns. >> law-abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violence or deranged criminals. >> the word on hillary in 2016....
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can the pentagon survive budget cuts or are secretary panetta's worries on the mark? mort zuckerman. >> yes, i think they can survive it. they have a gigantic budget. they have to get their funds spent in the right priority. a lot of people feel we're going to have to cut costs out of virtually every department. we cannot ignore it. everybody comes one a case why we should spend money, and nobody comes one a case why we should raise the money to do it. we have to do something to get our budgets under control because otherwise this whole thing is going to explode. >> how does our military compare with mill fares around the world? >> we have about 1 million in the active owe. >> 1.2 million active -- 1.4 active duty, or something. but, john, if panetta is correct, why does the vice president the united states propose a different set of cuts for the same amount of money if it is going to savage the defense budget? he has not come forward with. that clearly this is a meat axe approach. it's not the right approach, but frankly it's the only way the republicans are going to
can the pentagon survive budget cuts or are secretary panetta's worries on the mark? mort zuckerman. >> yes, i think they can survive it. they have a gigantic budget. they have to get their funds spent in the right priority. a lot of people feel we're going to have to cut costs out of virtually every department. we cannot ignore it. everybody comes one a case why we should spend money, and nobody comes one a case why we should raise the money to do it. we have to do something to get our...
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. >> chuck hagel andhe battle for the pentagon. >> the good ws is, for the first timen many years republican and democrats seem ready to tackle this problem together. >> the immigration problem. has somebody been reading exit polls? >> too many children are dying. too many children. >> also, the fight over guns. >> law-abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violence or deranged criminals. >> and the word on hillary in 2016. ll she or won't she? >> i have no pls to run. >> thursday was not a good day for chucuck hagel, president obama's choice to be his next def ense secretary. his old pal and fellow vietnam veteran john mccain jump all over him for opposing the surge in iraq. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that th surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country sincecorrect or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to -- >> are you going to answer the question? the questions, were you right or wrong? that is a pretty sime question. i would like for you to answer right or wrong, then you are free to elaborate. >> i am nott going to giv
. >> chuck hagel andhe battle for the pentagon. >> the good ws is, for the first timen many years republican and democrats seem ready to tackle this problem together. >> the immigration problem. has somebody been reading exit polls? >> too many children are dying. too many children. >> also, the fight over guns. >> law-abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violence or deranged criminals. >> and the word on hillary in 2016. ll she or...
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for obvious reasons, the pentagon have made their own case to the president. with the new resource problem home -- problem in mali. look what it took to support french forces against al qaeda subcontractors. if we can't do that, when americans are held hostage and killed, what kind of response do you really expect for -- >> is that a consequence of the u.s. not getting involved in mali earlier? >> what is the implication from that? that we need to be involved -- >> we were concerned about molly for at least eight months. only now there is discussion about what we should -- >> have another discussion on benghazi for the thousandth time. >> we are in the in danger -- in no danger of intervening too much. that is not what we have to worry about. >> let's move on. if you have a question, raise your hands and identify yourself. keep your questions short. let's go to -- then this woman right here in the black. >> as joshua said, syria is part of a broader middle east. what would be the position of the u.s. when lebanon, jordan, maybe israel and the whole region woul
for obvious reasons, the pentagon have made their own case to the president. with the new resource problem home -- problem in mali. look what it took to support french forces against al qaeda subcontractors. if we can't do that, when americans are held hostage and killed, what kind of response do you really expect for -- >> is that a consequence of the u.s. not getting involved in mali earlier? >> what is the implication from that? that we need to be involved -- >> we were...
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and you know i'm qualified for this job to be the head of the pentagon, defense secretary. it was almost like he was stunned by it. your thoughts. >> i think you're right. i think it was very personal. i was stunned by it, too. especially the way mccain kept pursuing it and pursuing it. clearly, john wanted chuck to say yes, i was wrong and you were right. and of course the verdict of history, as hagel tried to say, is still out on that. and frankly, in my view as a soldier, the surge had almost nothing to do with the actual increase in american troops. what it had to do was the coincidence of a number of things that were already moving in iraq. not least of which was the awakening. and it had to do with very frankly a general by the name of david petraeus taking advantage of this in order to enhance his own reputation. and as far as i'm concerned, the increase in troops had nothing to do with the change in the situation in iraq except that it got a bunch of them killed, as senator hagel was careful to point out. >> and that is paralleling his opening comments, which you ta
and you know i'm qualified for this job to be the head of the pentagon, defense secretary. it was almost like he was stunned by it. your thoughts. >> i think you're right. i think it was very personal. i was stunned by it, too. especially the way mccain kept pursuing it and pursuing it. clearly, john wanted chuck to say yes, i was wrong and you were right. and of course the verdict of history, as hagel tried to say, is still out on that. and frankly, in my view as a soldier, the surge had...
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chris lawrence joins us from the pentagon with that. so, chris, what do you know right now about his military background? >> well, erin, he's an officer. navy lieutenant in the naval reserve, who was just honorably discharged, just a couple weeks ago. you know, in his manifesto, he wrote the u.s. navy didn't instill the values of honor, courage, and commitment in me, but i thank them for sort of reemphasizing it in me. basically, he served in what was called a riverine unit. it's a small water, they work close to shore, ports, things like that, doing security. in fact, he deployed overseas to do security on an oil platform. so sort of different than what we think of as traditional navy. and right now, ncis, the naval criminal investigative service, is sharing a lot of that information with the local authorities there in l.a.. >> and chris, i'm curious, because back to this manifesto, this 11,000-word manifesto that he wrote, he wrote about his markenmanship and he said, i have always been the top shot, highest score, expert in rifle qua
chris lawrence joins us from the pentagon with that. so, chris, what do you know right now about his military background? >> well, erin, he's an officer. navy lieutenant in the naval reserve, who was just honorably discharged, just a couple weeks ago. you know, in his manifesto, he wrote the u.s. navy didn't instill the values of honor, courage, and commitment in me, but i thank them for sort of reemphasizing it in me. basically, he served in what was called a riverine unit. it's a small...
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for sharing bravo come the first dog of the pentagon. sylvia, leon bus service has been your sacrifice and we promised this time he really is coming home. leon, from your first day in uniform until today, your dedicated service to america has spanned nearly 50 remarkable years. as you review these fine troops one last time, as you return home and walkoff your farm, know that the grant arc of your life speaks to our larger american story, where you can say with confidence and pride that you have fulfilled the hopes that brought carmelo and carmelita panetta to these shores all those years ago. you made them proud. you have helped keep alive the american dream. for not only your children and grandchildren, but for all about children and grandchildren. and for that we will be truly grateful. leon, as your parents would say, grazie. god bless you, and god bless the united states of america. ladies and gentlemen, our secretary of defense, leon panetta. [applause] >> thank you very much. mr. president, i am deeply touched by your moving words,
for sharing bravo come the first dog of the pentagon. sylvia, leon bus service has been your sacrifice and we promised this time he really is coming home. leon, from your first day in uniform until today, your dedicated service to america has spanned nearly 50 remarkable years. as you review these fine troops one last time, as you return home and walkoff your farm, know that the grant arc of your life speaks to our larger american story, where you can say with confidence and pride that you have...
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why does barack obama want him in the pentagon in the first place? >> here's the thing, i think his stumbling, we're focusing on how he stumbled. the trouble was the peek into his world view and it is the president's world view we are seeing in the second term and that containment exchange was frontal and centre in this. what does -- front and center in this. containment means we'll allow a nuclear iran and contain it and not prevent it and people are concept cam whether the white house will actually use -- keep the military option on the table to prevent a nuclear iran. y it goes to the question of, does hagel see the u.s. military, a strong u.s. military as a force for good, for leadership in this world? and you get the sense from this and his comments, ala bob woodward and the "washington post" and the exchange he had with president obama, he doesn't, he sees it as a new world order and we are, leading from behind and he didn't exactly say it and it comes when leon panetta points out the threat of the man-pads, the anti-aircraft attack missiles th
why does barack obama want him in the pentagon in the first place? >> here's the thing, i think his stumbling, we're focusing on how he stumbled. the trouble was the peek into his world view and it is the president's world view we are seeing in the second term and that containment exchange was frontal and centre in this. what does -- front and center in this. containment means we'll allow a nuclear iran and contain it and not prevent it and people are concept cam whether the white house...
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>> jennifer griffin for us at the pentagon. thanks. >>> is the president fully engaged in foreign policy? we'll ask the fox all-stars when we return. all right that's a fifth-floor problem... ok. not in my house! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! no no no! not today! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! jimmy how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? happier than dikembe mutumbo blocking a shot. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. i'm here to pick up some cacti. it should be under stephens. the verizon share everything plan for small business. get a shareable pool of data... got enough joshua trees? ... on up to 25 devices. so you can spend less time... yea, the golden barrels... managing wireless costs and technology and more time driving your business potential. looks like we're going to need to order more agaves... ah! oh! ow! ... and more bandages. that's powerful. sharble data plus unlimited talk and text. now save $50 on a droid razr maxx hd by motorola. by the armful? by the barrelfu
>> jennifer griffin for us at the pentagon. thanks. >>> is the president fully engaged in foreign policy? we'll ask the fox all-stars when we return. all right that's a fifth-floor problem... ok. not in my house! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! no no no! not today! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! jimmy how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? happier than dikembe mutumbo blocking a shot. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. i'm here to...
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half of the cuts are expected to come from the pentagon. a conversation about the government's use of lethal force against suspected terrorists. our guest is christopher anders. then we'll talk with judith for the national partnership. "washington journal" live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> having observed a steady improvement in the opportunities and well being of our citizens, i can report to you that the state of this youthful union is good. >> once again with keeping with time honored tradition i come to report to you on the state of the union. i'm pleased to report that america is much improved and there is good reason to believe that improve will continue. >> my duty tonight is to report on the state of the union. not the state of your government but of your american community and set forth our responsibilities in the words of our founders to form a more perfect union. the state of the union is strong. >> as we gather tonight, our nation is at war, our economy is in recession, and the civilized world faces unprecedented dangers,
half of the cuts are expected to come from the pentagon. a conversation about the government's use of lethal force against suspected terrorists. our guest is christopher anders. then we'll talk with judith for the national partnership. "washington journal" live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> having observed a steady improvement in the opportunities and well being of our citizens, i can report to you that the state of this youthful union is good. >> once again with...
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half of the cuts are from the pentagon. we will discuss that with u.s. writer national security ray locker. then christopher anders and john bell winter on the use of drums. -- use of drones. "washington journal," live at 70 am eastern on c-span. >> what i have discovered as i have become more mature is the worst strategy to achieve happiness in life is to make that your primary goal. if you make happiness what you are striving for, you will not achieve it. instead, you'll end up narcissistic, self involved, caring about your own pleasures and satisfactions in life as a paramount goal. what i have found is happiness is best thought of as a byproduct of other things. it is a byproduct of meaningful work and family and friends and good health and love and care. we get happiness not by aiming directly at ford, but by throwing ourselves in a life projects, involving ourselves, and tried to have integrity. >> in "a conscious capitalism," whole foods ceo john mackey discusses how capitalism can be used for the good -- for good. >> having observed a steady impr
half of the cuts are from the pentagon. we will discuss that with u.s. writer national security ray locker. then christopher anders and john bell winter on the use of drums. -- use of drones. "washington journal," live at 70 am eastern on c-span. >> what i have discovered as i have become more mature is the worst strategy to achieve happiness in life is to make that your primary goal. if you make happiness what you are striving for, you will not achieve it. instead, you'll end...
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the hand you are in the pentagon. do you know how many times that day the president talked to the chief of staff or to the national security council people? i don't know how many times he was in contact. we were in contact with the staffs there. there was a d.c., which is deputy's meeting of the national security counsel that met that i think five or six or 8:00 that evening. in which everybody was represented including obviously national security team as well as the teams from state and elsewhere cia, dni. in addition to that. obviously our staffs were in constant touch with the white house to alert them as to, you know, what was taking place and what information we had. so there are -- it's just the nature of the white house that presidents of the united states make use of abroad sphere of staff that are involved with the issues to work the issues and continue to be in touch with him as to what is taking place. >> now relative to those unclassified talking points that we're prepared at the request of congress by the
the hand you are in the pentagon. do you know how many times that day the president talked to the chief of staff or to the national security council people? i don't know how many times he was in contact. we were in contact with the staffs there. there was a d.c., which is deputy's meeting of the national security counsel that met that i think five or six or 8:00 that evening. in which everybody was represented including obviously national security team as well as the teams from state and...
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assume that he gets confirmed, he has to be a tough -- a tough guy at the pentagon. he is going to be tough with congress. he has to deal with the potential of the sequester, fighting for the budget that he does get, dealing with all of the problems that come at you when you are in charge of the pentagon and the generals and the other members of the joint chiefs are going to feel they can run over him. >> we'll see about that. i assume that every general with any number of stars was watching intently yesterday, and might have had that thought in mind. you said another important word, which is sequester. it's going to be a huge mess over there trying to, first, anticipate this, and then deal with whatever the new reality is. i do think that it was ugly yesterday. it was ugly on both sides. the white house wasn't so much from what i heard defending his performance as saying that those mean republicans also performed in an ugly and bad and not very attractive way. i don't think anybody looked particularly good in that showdown. i also think it's very clear that this is,
assume that he gets confirmed, he has to be a tough -- a tough guy at the pentagon. he is going to be tough with congress. he has to deal with the potential of the sequester, fighting for the budget that he does get, dealing with all of the problems that come at you when you are in charge of the pentagon and the generals and the other members of the joint chiefs are going to feel they can run over him. >> we'll see about that. i assume that every general with any number of stars was...